SS and Scrypted (months in)
Security Spy is awesome. I had planning on buying a M1 Mini but it’s been running off an OLD 2014 MacBook Pro - 8 high res streams for AI recording of events and 8 low res streams continuously recording to 16TB array. Flawlessly. Love it. Have used the footage several times to solve mysteries here on the farm!
BUT - what’s lacking is remote access and viewing. While I can poke a hole in my firewall - thats not acceptable to me.
The solution is Scrypted. So in addition to the local recordings - all motion is also reviewed by any one of the 3 Apple TV’s on the network and onboard AI classifies the motion and the clip is sent to my iCloud HomeKit Secure Video storage - and events and remote streaming work flawlessly on my phone when off network. I also have Scrypted running on the same old Mac book that SecuritySpy is on and - no resource issues
@Ben - next version you should seriously consider adding either a Scrypted plugin or that type of functionality- it’s so nice to have the native HKSV functionality on the phone.
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Great to hear that all is working well, especially on a 2014 Mac!
Scrypted does look very good, however since the current remote access features work well for the vast majority of users, I would question how much benefit we can add by working on a specific plugin for this. I can certainly understand the desire to minimise possible attack surface for hackers, but SecuritySpy has good security and if you use strong passwords then the risk of opening a port for SecuritySpy to allow remote access is very low.
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My suggestion isn’t to replace your remote access part - if people like it - cool. Rather you have built “hooks” to leverage other parts of the Apple Ecosystem- and for a NVR as solid and Apple centric as Security Spy - not having your own hooks for HKSV is “lacking” IMHO… and since Scrypted does it - a plugin or even using the same tricks they do - to add the ability to leverage a HomeKit Hub on the LAN and use more Apple stuff from SS - just seems a very logical extension to me.
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Agree with recommendation to expand options for users who support SS.
HSV is a nice option for pushing some footage to the cloud (offsite redundant), and has more object recognition capabilities than SS.
Pushing streams into Home app lets my large family access some of them as well. No extra software for them to learn/manage.
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Makes sense to leverage these platforms
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Jumping in here after finding this thread via Google search.
Long time SS user. I have no intention of replacing SS with HKSV. But, I agree that it provides an attractive experience for my less tech savvy family members to view a camera while outside of the home, including the recorded history.
I will still record using SS. I do not port forward, and keep access restricted to local or VPN.
My suggestion is for SS to write a guide or build a plugin to support the webhooks of Scrypted. I set this up using the web hooks plugin that Scrypted offers, but others may not find this so easy. There's another thread in these forums that suggests the SMTP plugin, yuck. I would hate to see others follow that path.
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Another idea would be for the Scrypted SS plugin to encourage people to pull camera feeds from SS, rather than the cameras directly, putting SS at the center. If others are like me, I dont want competing software pulling from my cameras directly, fighting for resources. Similar to the web hooks, all of this is possible today via existing RSTP, WebHooks, and Dummy Switch plugins. It would just make things easier for setup.
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If your cameras support multiple connections it’s BETTER to pull from the cameras instead of Security Spy. Cameras that allow multiple connections do so because they have the hardware to support it. If you’re pulling the stream from Security Spy you’re needlessly taxing the computer running it. I pull feeds directly from my cameras into Scrypted if they’re in the proper format. The only time I pull the stream from SecuritySpy is if I need it in a different size or if there’s some other compatibility issue. Specifically I have some Reolink DUO 2s that are 4608x1728P. So I use SecuritySpy to feed Scrypted a 1080 wide video.
Trust me, you want to pull the stream from the cameras if they can support it.
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Good points. My Reolink's tend to fight me with multiple connections. Ben has said this is something to do with non standard implementation of ONVIF.
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I’m also playing with Scrypted solely for the HKSV piece. It is a solid piece of software but I do like Security Spy. I do like how it categorizes motion by car, wind, person, animal etc. If a future rev of Security Spy could support HKSV natively that would be awesome.
