We've been testing with the betas, and no problems have been found. It's always a good idea to wait a couple of weeks after any major macOS release before upgrading your system, but we don't expect any issues with this one.
I took a chance and updated to Sequoia the Mac Studio running SecuritySpy. (I made a TimeMachine backup first just in case.) Perhaps it was the reboot (the SecuritySpy system had not been rebooted for 171 days. I did skip some Mac updates, but not SecuritySpy, and have a power backup). But, SecuritySpy seems even faster and more responsive. It works on Sequoia perfectly. Thanks Ben and the team for having SecuritySpy ready to go.
This probably should be its own thread, but thanks for the great update to the iOS app. I love that I can now check video captures and the audio playing from another app keeps playing.
After upgrading to Sequoia, I notice strange bahaviour of SS v6.5 used for viewing only: FPS are dropping to low values resulting in distorted images. This seems to reflect only viewing, not the recorded clips.
@rapyt I've had to turn off my (Private Internet Access) VPN. It was messing with my network and I was seeing packet loss in SS. It appears to be a known problem that is affecting most -- maybe all -- VPNs with Sequoia.
Thank you for the hint, @Robbie . I had to disable the network filter of Little Snitch app and everything returned to normal. Though, it must be a Sequoia related problem, as I've been using Little Snitch for many years now without any serious problems.
Glad you sorted it. I found I had to turn off Little Snitch too! I run SS primarily on what I call my media Mac. I didn't realise my main life / work mac was similarly affected, the former being Intel and the latter an M2 Pro. So that's Little Snitch and Private Internet Access off everywhere.
Some have had to turn off the built in Mac Firewall too, but I've not been so affected.
The only issue that I came across after updating to Sequoia was that SS dod not have access to the local network after the install. All the cameras showed Color bars.
Normally I wait till the new year to install the latest Mac OS, but this time I jumped the gun. I wouldn't go so far as saying I "regret" installing Sequoia ... but I should have waited awhile. 😀
The main issue we have seen with Sequoia is the one that @HPeet has referred to - there is a new "Local Network" permission option under System Settings > Privacy & Security, which needs to be turned on for SecuritySpy. However, this permission setting seems buggy.
macOS should ask you to allow permission the first time you open SecuritySpy under Sequoia, however some users are reporting that this did not happen. And, some users are reporting that even with this permission apparently enabled, SecuritySpy is blocked.
If you see a "no route to host" error in SecuritySpy's video windows, this may indicate that macOS is blocking connections due to this issue. In this case, try turning this permission setting off/on a few times, and/or delete and re-download/install a fresh copy of SecuritySpy (this won't affect your settings).
Other than this not-insignificant issue, Sequoia seems to be quite solid release thus far.
I am having the local Network permission bug and toggling fixes it but it does it every few days. I'm assuming it's a OS bug but it's quite annoying. Hopefully Apple patches soon.
@bstep - yes, this seems to be a major problem in Sequoia, I also hope that Apple fixes this soon, as it must be affecting many users across many apps!
It is - I think it's this bug has caused me a huge number of problems with my ChannelsDVR set-up, as well as Security Spy - my previously stable and fast response camera system on my warehouse has become quite buggy and unreliable, with all kinds of delays, errors about "no key frames recently" or "no valid frames recently" or just "timeout" = then everything works again for a bit, then various cameras go back to "connecting . . " and then it all starts again. With 7 cameras setup, I'm generally lucky to have 4 viewable at any time, and even then, it may be a stuck fixed image from a few minutes ago -
Same issue here and, for me, it does not resolve itself over time. I have to go through the quit and toggle the setting routine which makes the system less robust since it requires intervention after a reboot.
We have been in touch with Apple engineering about this. The information we have received is that:
- Bugs have been found and fixed related to this permission item, but there are still some known unresolved macOS bugs related to it that will be fixed in future macOS updates.
- The main issue they are aware of is caused by having multiple instances of the same application installed on the Mac. In this case, macOS gets confused about which application has which permission, and can block local network access unexpectedly. Therefore, make sure that there is only one copy of SecuritySpy, of any version, anywhere, on your Mac.
- They are not aware of an issue whereby network access is spontaneously blocked after some time of working correctly, as long as there is only one instance of the application installed, and macOS 15.2 is in use.
If you are still seeing issues after double-checking the above items, I think the best course of action at this time is to wait for further macOS updates, which will make this permission item more stable and reliable. Unfortunately there is nothing we can in SecuritySpy about this problem - it's a macOS issue.
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We've been testing with the betas, and no problems have been found. It's always a good idea to wait a couple of weeks after any major macOS release before upgrading your system, but we don't expect any issues with this one.
Thanks....well, Im a sucker for new software releases, so I probably cant wait that long, but thanks for your answer and advice :-)
I took a chance and updated to Sequoia the Mac Studio running SecuritySpy. (I made a TimeMachine backup first just in case.) Perhaps it was the reboot (the SecuritySpy system had not been rebooted for 171 days. I did skip some Mac updates, but not SecuritySpy, and have a power backup). But, SecuritySpy seems even faster and more responsive. It works on Sequoia perfectly. Thanks Ben and the team for having SecuritySpy ready to go.
This probably should be its own thread, but thanks for the great update to the iOS app. I love that I can now check video captures and the audio playing from another app keeps playing.
Marty
Great to hear that @Marty, thanks for the feedback!
Been running the betas since July, no noticeable problems.
After upgrading to Sequoia, I notice strange bahaviour of SS v6.5 used for viewing only: FPS are dropping to low values resulting in distorted images. This seems to reflect only viewing, not the recorded clips.
@rapyt I've had to turn off my (Private Internet Access) VPN. It was messing with my network and I was seeing packet loss in SS. It appears to be a known problem that is affecting most -- maybe all -- VPNs with Sequoia.
Link to Apple Discussion forum: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255761213?sortBy=oldest_first&page=1
The Messages app wasn't sending or receiving either.
Thank you for the hint, @Robbie . I had to disable the network filter of Little Snitch app and everything returned to normal. Though, it must be a Sequoia related problem, as I've been using Little Snitch for many years now without any serious problems.
Glad you sorted it. I found I had to turn off Little Snitch too! I run SS primarily on what I call my media Mac. I didn't realise my main life / work mac was similarly affected, the former being Intel and the latter an M2 Pro. So that's Little Snitch and Private Internet Access off everywhere.
Some have had to turn off the built in Mac Firewall too, but I've not been so affected.
The only issue that I came across after updating to Sequoia was that SS dod not have access to the local network after the install. All the cameras showed Color bars.
To fix this, go to:
Settings:Privacy & Security:Local Network
and enable the switch.
Thanks indeed @Robbie for that heads up.
Boy Howdy, Sequoia is looking farther and farther down the road for me.
Normally I wait till the new year to install the latest Mac OS, but this time I jumped the gun. I wouldn't go so far as saying I "regret" installing Sequoia ... but I should have waited awhile. 😀
The main issue we have seen with Sequoia is the one that @HPeet has referred to - there is a new "Local Network" permission option under System Settings > Privacy & Security, which needs to be turned on for SecuritySpy. However, this permission setting seems buggy.
macOS should ask you to allow permission the first time you open SecuritySpy under Sequoia, however some users are reporting that this did not happen. And, some users are reporting that even with this permission apparently enabled, SecuritySpy is blocked.
If you see a "no route to host" error in SecuritySpy's video windows, this may indicate that macOS is blocking connections due to this issue. In this case, try turning this permission setting off/on a few times, and/or delete and re-download/install a fresh copy of SecuritySpy (this won't affect your settings).
Other than this not-insignificant issue, Sequoia seems to be quite solid release thus far.
I am having the local Network permission bug and toggling fixes it but it does it every few days. I'm assuming it's a OS bug but it's quite annoying. Hopefully Apple patches soon.
@bstep - yes, this seems to be a major problem in Sequoia, I also hope that Apple fixes this soon, as it must be affecting many users across many apps!
It is - I think it's this bug has caused me a huge number of problems with my ChannelsDVR set-up, as well as Security Spy - my previously stable and fast response camera system on my warehouse has become quite buggy and unreliable, with all kinds of delays, errors about "no key frames recently" or "no valid frames recently" or just "timeout" = then everything works again for a bit, then various cameras go back to "connecting . . " and then it all starts again. With 7 cameras setup, I'm generally lucky to have 4 viewable at any time, and even then, it may be a stuck fixed image from a few minutes ago -
Things I've gleaned on my travels: Turn off these app/services if you use them: VPN, Firewall, LittleSnitch.
With LittleSnitch, go to Settings>Network>Filters> and disable it.
For WiFi, Settings>WiFi>Details>Private Wi-Fi address: Fixed (or off)
Since doing the above a few weeks' ago, SecuritySpy has been 100% stable. As has Messages and networking to my NAS.
Allegedly, Sequoia 15.1 due next week, has fixed the network issues. Of course, we will have to see.
Edited to add: I run Emby on the Mac, saving to a NAS. And been recording and playing fine with the above turned off.
I'm encountering this problem also.
If the Mac mini restarts then the cameras have a "no route to host" error in SecuritySpy.
Only way to resolve it is by closing SecuritySpy and then turning Local Network permission off and then on again.
Any better workaround than this?
@adamj Here the same. The good thing is that it gets fixed by itself within approximately 2 minutes. I do not have to do anything.
I’ll give it a try waiting for the 2-3 mins and see how it goes.
Same issue here and, for me, it does not resolve itself over time. I have to go through the quit and toggle the setting routine which makes the system less robust since it requires intervention after a reboot.
Anything further on this?
We have been in touch with Apple engineering about this. The information we have received is that:
- Bugs have been found and fixed related to this permission item, but there are still some known unresolved macOS bugs related to it that will be fixed in future macOS updates.
- The main issue they are aware of is caused by having multiple instances of the same application installed on the Mac. In this case, macOS gets confused about which application has which permission, and can block local network access unexpectedly. Therefore, make sure that there is only one copy of SecuritySpy, of any version, anywhere, on your Mac.
- They are not aware of an issue whereby network access is spontaneously blocked after some time of working correctly, as long as there is only one instance of the application installed, and macOS 15.2 is in use.
If you are still seeing issues after double-checking the above items, I think the best course of action at this time is to wait for further macOS updates, which will make this permission item more stable and reliable. Unfortunately there is nothing we can in SecuritySpy about this problem - it's a macOS issue.