Preventing Static objects from AI Triggering?
Are there any plans to remove static objects from triggering AI?
I have a case where our car is parked on our driveway every night. The headlights of any car driving down the street trigger motion. The cars/street are masked off and out of frame, but the headlights hit the driveway triggering motion and the AI sees the parked car and triggers and event.
This issue is flooding me with motion alerts, phone notifications and emails, and is the main reason I cannot convert my system over to Security Spy.
Blue Iris takes periodic reference pictures, scans those with AI, and doesn't count objects from that frame for future motion triggers, unless they move. Are there any plans to add something like that to Security Spy?
Thanks.
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I think the same thing is happening to me although its a motion activated LED light that triggers (probably due to wind) and I get a motion capture.
SecuritySpy's vehicle AI is very accurate at determining whether there's a vehicle in the image (>98%), however it cannot currently tell the difference between a moving vehicle and a stationary one. Therefore, when you have a view where there is often a static/parked vehicle, you basically can't use the vehicle AI, because it will give you exactly the outcome that you are experiencing, whereby other movement such as shadows/rain cause motion detection around the vehicle, and then the AI detects the vehicle, causing a trigger.
You have two ways of dealing with this. The first is to change the camera's view so that static vehicles aren't in the frame, but only moving vehicles could be. Alternatively, turn off vehicle detection and use human detection only. With human detection, there is no similar problem of "parked" stationary humans to deal with.
We are looking at possible solutions for the future, but it's a difficult problem to deal with effectively, so I can't promise when we will be able to overcome this limitation.
Thanks for the response.
The vehicle is not there all the time and I want to know when it arrives, or if someone else does, so I can't excuse that halve of the driveway.
Humans only does not really work either, since it does not tell me when someone drives into the driveway.
The AI is great otherwise and very fast on M1 Mac. I really like SecuritySpy
Unfortunately, I'll have to stay with BlueIris. I'll check periodically to see if you are able to find a solution.
I ended up getting a M2 Mac Mini and decided to move from Blue Iris to SecuritySpy, even without parked car elimination. Hopefully, that can be added at some point
The M2 Mac Mini is pretty impressive. It seems to easily handle 6 4k cameras in SecuritySpy and act as my Channels DVR video server, without even beginning to break sweat (around 10-15% CPU load total!)
Great to hear you are sticking with SecuritySpy. We're still considering how to deal with this parked-vehicle situation. Perhaps we can add an extra feature - separate from motion detection - that detects the presence of certain objects in the video image like vehicles, that would be able to send you notifications when it detects a change between presence and absense. So you would get a notification when a vehicle arrives, and another one when it leaves.
Yes, the M2 chip is quite amazing - able to handle many cameras with very low resource usage!
That would be a very useful feature.
One way to try to deal with this is to increase the motion threshold to like 2 seconds which may be longer than a flash of someone's headlights passing by, but short enough a car pulling into the driveway (usually slowly) would still trigger it.
That would help. I’ll try that.
I currently do motion for humans and vehicles, but actions for humans only, so I only get email when people walk up the driveway, but have recordings of both
Unfortunately, phone notifications are only based on motion. So I have to set up a separate dummy camera is trigger from the action of the first camera, and only get phone notification from the dummy camera.
Unfortunately, phone notifications are only based on motion.
I'm not sure this is true. Maybe I''m not understanding what you're saying. I have several cameras where I record motion events with AI, but only get iOS alert for humans detected.
I just retested, and you are right. I only get notification if the action is triggered. Thanks.
I’m not sure why I thought it was on motion for some reason.
Great!